[devinfo] Fwd: [Bug 2388] Parse dhcpd.leases and feed to tinydns

[Stefano Zamboni]

since I was explicitly requested to discuss this topic outside BZ, I
forward it to devinfo and discussion


Bug 2388 was created to add to the core the feature of keeping in sync
dhcp leases and dns entries

in the (long) bug's discussion some solutions were proposed and, at the
end, Stephane created a contrib (thank you mate), because adding a
feature to the core is harder than digging a tunnel under a mountain
with a tea spoon :-)

now..

the code to solve/offer the requested feature already exists, so the bug
itself should not exist and the code developed by Steph should be
already merged into the core.

so, my first question is: why this code is not in the base?

and the second one is: since we moved it to the futurere and SME10 is in
alpha stage (which is exactly the phase were you add and test features),
what are the requested steps to add the code to the base?

thank you

S.



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*Comment # 137 <https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2388#c137> on
bug 2388 <https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2388> from
Jean-Philippe Pialasse <mailto:***@pialasse.com> *

(In reply to Stefano Zamboni fromcomment #136 <show_bug.cgi?id=2388#c136>)

I'm well aware of how things are supposed to work.. > > the "issue" here is that we already have a contrib, made by Steph,

which > offers the requested feature..

that is not the issue I see. What I see here is the need to have dhcp lease and
dns to be in sync as base functionality.

Further more having a contrib is not an issue but a workaround. Thanks to
Stephan to have worked on it.

so, IMO, this bug should be cloned for SME10 and this one (which was

a NFR > for SME9) closed..

which mean we loose the follow up existing in this bug, or we need to consult
two bugs to fully understand the situation. That's why we usually move the bug
to the higher version of SME available, so we can fix it with a full. Then
duplicate it to lower version where we want to backport it.

sounds reasonable?

what would sound reasonable is to keep on discussion on devinfo instead of
diluting this bug.

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[stephane de Labrusse]

Post by Stefano Zamboni
so, my first question is: why this code is not in the base?

This is my point of view, not the board's one, nor the dev team's one

SME9 is nearly dead, in less of 3 years....don't push features to sme9,
save the dev's free time to sme10

Post by Stefano Zamboni
and the second one is: since we moved it to the futurere and SME10 is
in alpha stage (which is exactly the phase were you add and test
features), what are the requested steps to add the code to the base?

it is needed to test if the code is not broken in sme10, maybe by
installing the contrib of sme9, or by pushing the files of the rpm to a
sme10....and pray :)
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[Stefano Zamboni]

Post by stephane de Labrusse

Post by Stefano Zamboni
so, my first question is: why this code is not in the base?

This is my point of view, not the board's one, nor the dev team's one

hi Steph :-)

Post by stephane de Labrusse
SME9 is nearly dead, in less of 3 years....don't push features to sme9,
save the dev's free time to sme10

you missed a "development" after SME9, don't you? :-)

anyway, I'm asking for the reason why your code has not been accepted

we'll work on SME10 only and backport some things to 9 if we'll have time

Post by stephane de Labrusse

Post by Stefano Zamboni
and the second one is: since we moved it to the futurere and SME10 is
in alpha stage (which is exactly the phase were you add and test
features), what are the requested steps to add the code to the base?

it is needed to test if the code is not broken in sme10, maybe by
installing the contrib of sme9, or by pushing the files of the rpm to a
sme10....and pray :)

<ironic>
so, IIUC, I'd just bring your code, test it on SME10 and see if it
works.. and, if so, this code will be added, right?
</ironic>

I'd like to have some clarifications before hitting my head on a wall
trying to make any new feature accepted

thank you for your answer

S.

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[stephane de Labrusse]

Post by Stefano Zamboni
we'll work on SME10 only and backport some things to 9 if we'll have time

Even if I love sme9, it is a waste of free time :'(
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[stephane de Labrusse]

Post by Stefano Zamboni
I'd like to have some clarifications before hitting my head on a wall
trying to make any new feature accepted

For what I recall, the code was/is workable, I tested it in a french
school with several hundred computers....with a really unlucky
sysadmin...hi john roche :)
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[Jean-Philippe PIALASSE]

Post by Stefano Zamboni

Post by stephane de Labrusse

Post by Stefano Zamboni
so, my first question is: why this code is not in the base?

This is my point of view, not the board's one, nor the dev team's one

hi Steph :-)

Post by stephane de Labrusse
SME9 is nearly dead, in less of 3 years....don't push features to sme9,
save the dev's free time to sme10

you missed a "development" after SME9, don't you? :-)
anyway, I'm asking for the reason why your code has not been accepted
we'll work on SME10 only and backport some things to 9 if we'll have time

maybe just because nobody ported it to base code because everybody was
waiting after anybody to do it ?



That’s Not My Job

This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and
Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure
that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did
it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job.
Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that
Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody
when Nobody did what Anybody could have.

ref:
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[Jean-Philippe PIALASSE]

it seems the discussion has been forked to devinfo list for who is
interested.

JP

Post by Stefano Zamboni
since I was explicitly requested to discuss this topic outside BZ, I
forward it to devinfo and discussion
Bug 2388 was created to add to the core the feature of keeping in sync
dhcp leases and dns entries
in the (long) bug's discussion some solutions were proposed and, at
the end, Stephane created a contrib (thank you mate), because adding a
feature to the core is harder than digging a tunnel under a mountain
with a tea spoon :-)
now..
the code to solve/offer the requested feature already exists, so the
bug itself should not exist and the code developed by Steph should be
already merged into the core.
so, my first question is: why this code is not in the base?
and the second one is: since we moved it to the futurere and SME10 is
in alpha stage (which is exactly the phase were you add and test
features), what are the requested steps to add the code to the base?
thank you
S.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [Bug 2388] Parse dhcpd.leases and feed to tinydns
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:18:37 +0000
*Comment # 137 <https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2388#c137>
on bug 2388 <https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2388> from
(In reply to Stefano Zamboni from comment #136 <show_bug.cgi?id=2388#c136>)

I'm well aware of how things are supposed to work.. > > the "issue" here is that we already have a contrib, made by

Steph, which > offers the requested feature..
that is not the issue I see. What I see here is the need to have dhcp lease and
dns to be in sync as base functionality.
Further more having a contrib is not an issue but a workaround. Thanks to
Stephan to have worked on it.

so, IMO, this bug should be cloned for SME10 and this one (which was

a NFR > for SME9) closed..
which mean we loose the follow up existing in this bug, or we need to consult
two bugs to fully understand the situation. That's why we usually move the bug
to the higher version of SME available, so we can fix it with a full. Then
duplicate it to lower version where we want to backport it.

sounds reasonable?

what would sound reasonable is to keep on discussion on devinfo instead of
diluting this bug.
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