[devinfo] [updatesannounce] Koozali SME Server 9.2 RC1 Release Announcement

[Terry Fage]

I know a lot of you have done some fine work getting to this stage. One
Question, should this release be held up to make sure it incorporates
the CentOS equivalent updates to RHEL 6.9, which was released on March
21st?

Absolutely, lets see what the powers that be have to say..

cross posted to devinfo

Terry
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[Jean-Philippe PIALASSE]

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[Hsing-Foo Wang]

I am completely lost about this post and its meaning. Let alone talking
about SME Server 9.3 whilst we are in Beta stage for SME Server 9.2.

I recently shared my opinion about the SME Sever 10 Alpha release cycle
and the need for it to be up to par with upstream for SME Server
10.0Alpha 2 is way behind, and testing can only be done against current
releases and updates. My request has not been followed up to, thus
declined for whatever reason. I'll postpone my SME Server 10Alpha
testing until it is up to par with the latest CentOS 7 latest release. I
am not willing to waist my time on a way outdated (almost a year by now)
Alpha release.

Post by Terry Fage

I know a lot of you have done some fine work getting to this stage.
One
Question, should this release be held up to make sure it incorporates
the CentOS equivalent updates to RHEL 6.9, which was released on March
21st?

Absolutely, lets see what the powers that be have to say..
cross posted to devinfo
Terry

Hello John,
Hello all,
According to CentOS wiki : "The goal for release of a new point
release or update set is four to eight weeks after the release by
upstream. " Which means the new release should occur between end of
April and end of May.
- While SME9 is in release candidate this means development is frozen
because of an imminent release.
- Furthermore, getting a bunch of new rpms from upstream means we
might have to do some debugging and adjustment of the core, which is
not compatible with a RC, and is more a regression to beta and
testing, which requires time.
It seems more reasonable to release as planned around beginning of
- upstream updates and related SME fixes
- novelties for SME 9 and bug fixes currently frozen
- novelties from SME10, backported to SME9
Hence, with more active development and a few NFR expecting 9.2 to be
out before being worked on or ported from SME 10, I am confident that
we could justify a 9.3 soon.
Jean-Philippe
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[Hsing-Foo Wang]

correction 9.2 beta stage would be 9.2 RC stage

Post by Hsing-Foo Wang
I am completely lost about this post and its meaning. Let alone
talking about SME Server 9.3 whilst we are in Beta stage for SME
Server 9.2.
I recently shared my opinion about the SME Sever 10 Alpha release
cycle and the need for it to be up to par with upstream for SME Server
10.0Alpha 2 is way behind, and testing can only be done against
current releases and updates. My request has not been followed up to,
thus declined for whatever reason. I'll postpone my SME Server 10Alpha
testing until it is up to par with the latest CentOS 7 latest release.
I am not willing to waist my time on a way outdated (almost a year by
now) Alpha release.

Post by Terry Fage

I know a lot of you have done some fine work getting to this stage. One
Question, should this release be held up to make sure it incorporates
the CentOS equivalent updates to RHEL 6.9, which was released on March
21st?

Absolutely, lets see what the powers that be have to say..
cross posted to devinfo
Terry

Hello John,
Hello all,
According to CentOS wiki : "The goal for release of a new point
release or update set is four to eight weeks after the release by
upstream. " Which means the new release should occur between end of
April and end of May.
- While SME9 is in release candidate this means development is frozen
because of an imminent release.
- Furthermore, getting a bunch of new rpms from upstream means we
might have to do some debugging and adjustment of the core, which is
not compatible with a RC, and is more a regression to beta and
testing, which requires time.
It seems more reasonable to release as planned around beginning of
- upstream updates and related SME fixes
- novelties for SME 9 and bug fixes currently frozen
- novelties from SME10, backported to SME9
Hence, with more active development and a few NFR expecting 9.2 to be
out before being worked on or ported from SME 10, I am confident that
we could justify a 9.3 soon.
Jean-Philippe
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[Jean-Philippe PIALASSE]

Post by Hsing-Foo Wang
correction 9.2 beta stage would be 9.2 RC stage

Post by Hsing-Foo Wang
I am completely lost about this post and its meaning. Let alone
talking about SME Server 9.3 whilst we are in Beta stage for SME
Server 9.2.
I recently shared my opinion about the SME Sever 10 Alpha release
cycle and the need for it to be up to par with upstream for SME
Server 10.0Alpha 2 is way behind, and testing can only be done
against current releases and updates. My request has not been
followed up to, thus declined for whatever reason. I'll postpone my
SME Server 10Alpha testing until it is up to par with the latest
CentOS 7 latest release. I am not willing to waist my time on a way
outdated (almost a year by now) Alpha release.

HF,
thank you for your concerns

the difference is :
- SME9 is in production and SME9.2 has a lot of benefits for the
community (around 9000 active servers). The advantage is not only
reducing the number of updates to download : per instance, better spam
handling.

- SME 10 is as you highlighted: alpha. It is only at early development
phase. Fewer than 100 servers are installed in the world. Most of them
are virtual machines with snapshot functionality. Repetitive testing
could be handled by downloading once updates, take a snapshot and roll
to this snapshot after each testing. The advantage for the community is
without comparison.

JPP
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